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 Subiectul mesajului: Re: IELTS target: Band score 8
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cel mai important la proba de speaking este 'exercitiul'. cat mai multe filme vazute cu subtitrare in engleza - ajuta mult la imbogatirea vocabularului (atat filmele americane cat si cele englezesti) , 'slefuirea' accentului (recomandat filme englezesti), vorbit foarte mult in engleza (in casa intre parteneri ajuta foarte mult, asa va obisnuiti sa fiti cat mai relaxati, fara stres). Dupa cum spunea si Gabriel, la proba de speaking cel mai mult conteaza cat de fluent vorbiti. in momentul in care candidatul incepe cu 'aaa..... aaaa... aaa....' sau cu pauze intre cuvinte el deja este depunctat. in plus in aceste conditii examinatorul isi pierde rabdarea. de acea este imperios necesar sa vorbiti cat mai mult mult pentru a va obisnui cu limba! In momentul in care va este adresata intrebarea ar trebui ca raspunsul sa va vina direct in engleza, nu in romana. nu este imposibil, doar ca necesita multa perseverenta.
va spun toate aceste lucruri din experienta, eu am luat 8 la speaking, si sincer am facut doar 1 sau 2 teste IELTS de speaking, doar ca stiu despre ce este vorba. si din nou, Gabriel avea mare dreptate cand spunea ca trebuie sa va simtiti confortabil vorbind in engleza.
pentru cei care ar vrea sa vorbeasca engleza dar nu au cu cine, eu sunt disponibila sa ajut :). puteti sa ma contactati, incercam sa facem sedinte de 30-60 min pe skype.
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Multumim Gabriel si Cristu81! Intr-adevar, de aceste detalii avem nevoie. Gabriel are mare dreptate. Gramatica si vocabularul sunt doua elemente imperios necesare, dar cunoasterea lor nu este suficienta pentru 8. Vreau sa incercam sa atingem toate aspectele aici.
@Cristu81: Tu esti una din persoanele care a obtinut acel score 8. Poti sa ne dai mai multe detalii? Examinator/Examinatoare? Roman/Englez? Cum a decurs examinarea? A fost nevoie sa te intrerupa la cue card? A fost nevoie de intrebari suplimentare?
Sper ca nu te-am bombardat prea rau cu intrebarile :)
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revin cand ajung acasa :)

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LATER EDIT: PROBA WRITING

Pentru a lua 8, cel mai important lucru mi se pare sa minimizezi timpul alocat ezitarilor. Asta se obtine fie printr-o fluenta foarte buna, fie urmand o regula de genul, daca in 10 secunde nu ai gasit formula potrivita ca sa exprimi ceva in engleza, renunti si schimbi ceea ce vroiai sa zici cu ceva ce iti este mai convenabil.

Stiu ca foarte multi nu au timp sa termine eseurile pentru ca timpul este foarte strans. Cred ca nu exagerez daca spun ca cel putin 3 sferturi din candidatii din sala unde am dat eu examenul inca mai scriau la terminarea timpului. Textul meu a fost complet, am avut timp sa citesc tot ce am scris si sa corectez greselile, insa nu a fost foarte coerent, de aceea am luat 8. Coerenta mi se pare foarte greu de obtinut cand ai asa putin timp la dispozitie.

O sa enumar cateva idei care mi se par importante din experienta mea:

1. Prima conditie la writing e sa te hotarasti ce scrii. Ezitarea inseamna pierdere de timp.
2. Ceea ce scrii nu trebuie sa fie neaparat adevarat, ci ceea ce iti este mai usor, mai convenabil sa exprimi in limba engleza.
3. Viteza cu care concepi eseurile trebuie sa fie aproape la fel de mare ca cea pe care o ai cand scrii in romana. Nu e timp de pierdut pentru a gasi constructia potrivita. Daca ceva nu suna bine, reformuleaza, nu sta 2 minute sa iti aduci aminte expresia perfecta.
4. Scrie direct pe foaia de examen pentru a castiga timp.
5. Foloseste cateva constructii gen: however, despite, conversely, having said that etc. Astea n-ar trebui sa fie prea greu de insusit.
6. Evident pentru a lua 8 trebuie sa scrii destul de corect, sa nu faci greseli de gramatica, spelling etc.
7. Si foarte important, aloca timp pentru a verifica tot ce ai scris.

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MesajScris: 15 Iul 2011, 10:05 
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Sa va impartasesc si eu cate ceva din experienta mea care sper sa va ajute.
In primul rand sunt multi care cred ca stiu engleza, la fel eram si eu, parerea mea e ca examenul trebuie tratat cu seriozitate maxima. Chiar daca ai sau nu ai multi ani de engleza in spate trebuie o pregatire temeinica la fiecare proba a exemenului.
Listening si Reading - sunt cele mai usoare sa zicem asa, sau mai exact la care se poate realiza o pregatire mai temeinica. Mie de exemplu nu imi placea listeningul, sa asculti mai multi oameni in diferite dialecte in timp ce citesti un text si sa completezi ceea ce zic ei :). Aici parerea mea e ca trebuie concentrare maxima si mult exercitiu.
La reading la fel trebuie abordate cat mai multe teste. Cand vedeti ca faceti 3-4 teste consecutiv si obtineti punctaj de 36-40 inseamna ca stati binisor :).
E important vocabularul si la proba de listening, degeaba auzi ce trebuie scris si nu stii scrie corect te depuncteaza.
Pentru imbunatatirea acestui vocabular - cititi carti in engleza, romane, nuvele etc, si cu dictionarul traduceti cuvintele necunoscute, urmarirea filmelor cu subtitrare in engleza cum s-a mai spus e benefic de asemenea, e mai bine decat fara subtitrare zic eu.

Proba de Writing - aici e nevoie de gramatica, vocabular si respectarea riguroasa a regulilor de intocmire scrisoare si eseu.
Imbunatatirea vocabularului la fel ca la listening - carti si subtitrari in engleza, cititi si pe net articole etc in engleza.
Gramatica - exista carti, exista si fisiere pe net si eu am postat undeva despre un fisier foarte complex de gramatica, ceea ce cred eu ca se urmareste in afara de scrierea corecta este sequence of tenses (regulile dupa care se leaga timpurile de exprimare in engleza, sunt niste reguli stricte care trebuie invatate).
Respectarea riguroasa a regulilor de intocmire :
- la scrisoare e important sa identificati daca e formal sau informal, adresarea de inceput se face in functie de asta, structura exact inceput, mijloc si incheiere, incheierea se face in functie de tipul de scrisoare, ultimul rand + formula de incheiere.
- la eseu introducere in care se zice ca e bine sa rescrii cerinta din titlu utilizand rephrasing, ideile clare, fiecare idee in alt pagraf si argumentat, ultimul paragraf incheierea un fel de concluzie la tot ce ati vorbit in eseu.
Numarul de cuvinte - foarte important at least 250, deci sa nu aveti sub 250 ca veti fi depunctat. Regulile eseelor in limba engleza dicteaza ca daca ti se da un nr de cuvinte trebuie sa fii undeva la +-10% fata de nr dat, deci daca ei zic at least eu va recomand 250-275 cuvinte sub nici o forma sub 250.

Proba de speaking, cea mai grea zic eu, e foarte greu sa vorbesti fluent cand ai si emotii si sa te si exprimi cu un vocabular adecvat pentru tot felul de subiecte pe care le poti primi.
E foarte imporatant zic eu sa ajungi sa gandesti in engleza, cand trebuie sa stai sa traduci fiecare cuvant e mai greu.
De asemenea ar fi indicat sa invatati niste idioms, ca sa impresionati un pic examinatoarea.
E importanta fluenta, spelling-ul, modul cum te exprimi, corectitudinea, timpurile folosite in exprimare.
E foarte important sa vorbesti in engleza mult.
Atat pentru proba de writing cat si pentru cea de speaking recomand ore de engleza, e bine sa fii apreciat de un profesor care se ocupa cu asa ceva. La eseu e greu sa te autoapreciezi si la speaking la fel.
Mai bine investesti niste bani in mediatii decat sa platesti testul in repetate randuri.
Daca va mai pot ajuta cu ceva va ajut cu cea mai mare placere.
Bafta multa.


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IELTS Tips - Speaking

1. Give a full answer. Don't just give one word answers. Include more information. For example, when asked where you're from, instead of just saying the name of the place, speak in a sentence which states the name, the location, and how long you've been there. This shows the examiner you are confident speaking in English. But don't speak too long or the examiner will think you've misunderstood the question!

2. Speak clearly and don't worry about your accent. Everyone has an accent when they speak English. The important point is that you enunciate the best you can so the examiner can understand you. Rehearse in advance to overcome any obvious pronunciation problems. If you make a mistake, don't worry, just correct yourself and keep going.

3. Use descriptive words. Don't use boring words like good, bad, nice, or okay. Use exciting words that covey emotion. Practice using higher level words for every simple word you know – such as thrilled instead of happy, or depressed instead of sad.

4. Speak up. Sometimes, students mumble and speak very softly because they are nervous or unsure of their words. Use simple, correct language rather than complicated vocabulary and speak loudly enough that the examiner does not have to strain to hear you. This indicates self-confidence and command of the language.

5. Don't use slang. You have 11 minutes to display the best English you know in all the years that you have been learning English! Choose to be formal rather than informal.

6. Keep a steady pace. Don't speak too fast or too slow.

7. Don't try to memorize answers to sample subjects. The examiner has enough experience to recognize that you are not speaking naturally and spontaneously and will change the subject or give you a lower score. Use the sample subjects to give you practice speaking on a variety of topics, but not to memorize.

8. Explain names or words which are in another language. For instance, if you are asked to speak about a festival, which involves using words in your language, say the words clearly and give the meaning if any afterwards, so the examiner can follow your explanation.

9. Ask questions, if necessary, in Part 3 only. You cannot ask questions in Parts 1 and 2, but you can do so, if necessary in Part 3.

10. Practice speaking with a watch. Get an idea of how long two minutes is and approximately how much content you will have to cover.

11. Stay on topic. Don't change the subject or the examiner will think you have misunderstood and may give you a lower mark.

12. Have daily discussions with friends. Take turns asking each other questions about current events and develop your ability to speak about various topics, using varied sentence structure and vocabulary.

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Listening tips:

Before you listen:

-Read the instructions carefully.
-Always look at and listen for the example.

As you listen:

-Accurately specify the topic before choosing the keywords/phrases to listen for, and
-be aware of the question changing.
-If necessary, wait for the speaker to sum up.

In the time given to you at the end of the short-answer questions:

-Make sure your words and numbers are easy to read.
-Guess the answers to unanswered questions - do not leave blanks.
-Check that your answers are given in grammatically correct English.
-i.e. for answers that should be in plural form.

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TIPS FOR ALL FOUR PARTS OF THE TEST

LISTENING

1. Read instructions carefully, don’t just glance at them. They are not always the same as in practice or previous tests.
2. The speaker will often give you an answer and then correct themselves - watch out for this. It’s a common trick.
3. Try and anticipate what the speaker will say. This requires concentration - easy in your own language, but more difficult in English.
4. Remember, if you want a high score you should aim to get all questions in parts one and two correct. Don’t make any careless mistakes in the easier sections.
5. Although there are not that many IELTS books on the market, other Cambridge exam preparation materials, such as FCE and CAE preparation books, can provide valuable practice.
6. Small errors such as spelling, omitting (s) or incomplete times e.g. 1.30 can lead to low score.
7. Don’t panic if you think the topic is too difficult or the speaker is too fast. Relax and tune in.
8. Read, write and listen at the same time! You need practice for this.
9. Don’t leave blanks, better guess because you won’t be penalised.
10. It is advisable for you to write your answers in CAPITAL letters; when it is not clear whether the spelling is correct or not, for example because of a candidate’s poor handwriting, then the answers are marked as wrong.

READING
1. Leave a question if you can’t answer. To spend a long time on one answer is disastrous. Go back later if you have time and guess if you have to.
2. Don’t panic if you don’t know anything about the text paragraph. All the answers are there and you don’t need any specialist knowledge.
3. Remember you have no extra time to transfer your answers. Many candidates think that because they have extra time in listening they are able to do this in reading too. You can’t.
4. Before the exam, read as widely as possible e.g. newspapers, magazines, journals. Don’t limit yourself to one type of text and read articles with an academic style where possible.
5. Look at ways paragraphs are organised.
6. Try and predict the content of paragraph from the opening sentence.
7. Give the paragraph you are reading an imaginary heading.
8. Don’t concentrate on words you don’t know. It is fatal and wastes valuable time.
9. Try and spend a specific period of time each day reading.
10. Careless mistakes cost many marks. Copy the answer correctly if it is in the text paragraph.
11. Check spelling.
12. Give only one answer if that is all that’s needed.
13. Be careful with singular/plural.

WRITING
1. Highlight/circle key words.
2. Clearly divide paragraphs.
3. Don’t repeat ideas in a different way.
4. Stick to the topic.
5. Careful with timing - don’t rush! Task 2 is longer and carries more weight.
6. Use one idea in each paragraph.
7. Avoid informal language.
8. Learn to recognise how long 150 words is in your handwriting. You don’t really have time to count.
9. Don’t write too many words, particularly for Task One.
10. Get used to always spending several minutes re-reading and correcting your essays.
11. Don’t memorise model answers, they won’t fit the question and you will make more careless mistakes.

SPEAKING
1. It tests your ability to communicate effectively not just your grammatical accuracy.
2. Don’t learn chunks of answers. The examiner is trained to spot this and will change the question.
3. Develop your answers as much as possible.
4. Speak more than the examiner.
5. Ask for clarification if necessary.
6. Remember it is not a test of knowledge and there is no single answer, but ensure that you give your opinion. Don’t
worry if you feel it is not sophisticated enough.
7. The areas covered are fairly predictable and not infinite, so practise at home by recording ideas onto a tape
recorder.

How strictly is IELTS marked?
Candidates should take care when writing answers on the Listening and Reading Answer Sheet as incorrect spelling and grammar are penalised. Both UK and US varieties of spelling are acceptable.
If candidates are asked to write an answer using a certain number of words and/or (a) number(s), they will be penalised if they exceed this. For example if a question specifies an answer using NO MORE THAN THREE WORDS and the correct answer is ‘black leather coat’, the answer ‘coat of black leather’ is incorrect.
In questions where candidates are expected to complete a gap, candidates should only transfer the necessary missing word(s) on to the Answer Sheet. For example if a candidate has to complete ‘in the ________’ and the correct answer is ‘morning’ the answer ’in the morning’ would be incorrect.
Candidates should read and follow the instructions and questions very carefully. In Listening especially, care also should be taken when transferring answers on to the Answer Sheet.

Source: www.ielts.org

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TIPS FOR ALL FOUR PARTS OF THE TEST

LISTENING

1. Read instructions carefully, don’t just glance at them. They are not always the same as in practice or previous tests.
2. The speaker will often give you an answer and then correct themselves - watch out for this. It’s a common trick.
3. Try and anticipate what the speaker will say. This requires concentration - easy in your own language, but more difficult in English.
4. Remember, if you want a high score you should aim to get all questions in parts one and two correct. Don’t make any careless mistakes in the easier sections.
5. Although there are not that many IELTS books on the market, other Cambridge exam preparation materials, such as FCE and CAE preparation books, can provide valuable practice.
6. Small errors such as spelling, omitting (s) or incomplete times e.g. 1.30 can lead to low score.
7. Don’t panic if you think the topic is too difficult or the speaker is too fast. Relax and tune in.
8. Read, write and listen at the same time! You need practice for this.
9. Don’t leave blanks, better guess because you won’t be penalised.
10. It is advisable for you to write your answers in CAPITAL letters; when it is not clear whether the spelling is correct or not, for example because of a candidate’s poor handwriting, then the answers are marked as wrong.

READING
1. Leave a question if you can’t answer. To spend a long time on one answer is disastrous. Go back later if you have time and guess if you have to.
2. Don’t panic if you don’t know anything about the text paragraph. All the answers are there and you don’t need any specialist knowledge.
3. Remember you have no extra time to transfer your answers. Many candidates think that because they have extra time in listening they are able to do this in reading too. You can’t.
4. Before the exam, read as widely as possible e.g. newspapers, magazines, journals. Don’t limit yourself to one type of text and read articles with an academic style where possible.
5. Look at ways paragraphs are organised.
6. Try and predict the content of paragraph from the opening sentence.
7. Give the paragraph you are reading an imaginary heading.
8. Don’t concentrate on words you don’t know. It is fatal and wastes valuable time.
9. Try and spend a specific period of time each day reading.
10. Careless mistakes cost many marks. Copy the answer correctly if it is in the text paragraph.
11. Check spelling.
12. Give only one answer if that is all that’s needed.
13. Be careful with singular/plural.

WRITING
1. Highlight/circle key words.
2. Clearly divide paragraphs.
3. Don’t repeat ideas in a different way.
4. Stick to the topic.
5. Careful with timing - don’t rush! Task 2 is longer and carries more weight.
6. Use one idea in each paragraph.
7. Avoid informal language.
8. Learn to recognise how long 150 words is in your handwriting. You don’t really have time to count.
9. Don’t write too many words, particularly for Task One.
10. Get used to always spending several minutes re-reading and correcting your essays.
11. Don’t memorise model answers, they won’t fit the question and you will make more careless mistakes.

SPEAKING
1. It tests your ability to communicate effectively not just your grammatical accuracy.
2. Don’t learn chunks of answers. The examiner is trained to spot this and will change the question.
3. Develop your answers as much as possible.
4. Speak more than the examiner.
5. Ask for clarification if necessary.
6. Remember it is not a test of knowledge and there is no single answer, but ensure that you give your opinion. Don’t
worry if you feel it is not sophisticated enough.
7. The areas covered are fairly predictable and not infinite, so practise at home by recording ideas onto a tape
recorder.

How strictly is IELTS marked?
Candidates should take care when writing answers on the Listening and Reading Answer Sheet as incorrect spelling and grammar are penalised. Both UK and US varieties of spelling are acceptable.
If candidates are asked to write an answer using a certain number of words and/or (a) number(s), they will be penalised if they exceed this. For example if a question specifies an answer using NO MORE THAN THREE WORDS and the correct answer is ‘black leather coat’, the answer ‘coat of black leather’ is incorrect.
In questions where candidates are expected to complete a gap, candidates should only transfer the necessary missing word(s) on to the Answer Sheet. For example if a candidate has to complete ‘in the ________’ and the correct answer is ‘morning’ the answer ’in the morning’ would be incorrect.
Candidates should read and follow the instructions and questions very carefully. In Listening especially, care also should be taken when transferring answers on

to the Answer Sheet.

Source: http://www.ielts.org

Thanks for the tips!!!!!!


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eu am dat IELTS general in octombrie - am luat peste 7 la doua module fara sa ma pregatesc deloc, mai ales ca targetul pt mine era 6.5, destul de scazut. Si stiu engleza dar nu excelez. Asa ca nu e nici un secret - tine de concentrare si de atentie mai mult decit de "toceala" anterioara.


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eu am dat IELTS general in octombrie - am luat peste 7 la doua module fara sa ma pregatesc deloc, mai ales ca targetul pt mine era 6.5, destul de scazut. Si stiu engleza dar nu excelez. Asa ca nu e nici un secret - tine de concentrare si de atentie mai mult decit de "toceala" anterioara.
Draga mteodora, avand in vedere ca nu ai luat nota 8, postul tau mi se pare irelevant si imi cer scuze daca par rautacioasa. Asa cum tu nu ai luat, sa zicem, 9, asa sunt altii care nu reusesc sa ia 6 sau 7. Si in acest caz intervine "toceala" sau sa-i spunem mai dragut, practica anterioara. Daca tu esti de 7, deci un nivel superior fata de cel de care aveai nevoie, e perfect. Dar ce ne facem atunci cand suntem de 6.5 si vrem 7, de exemplu. Iti spun din proprie experienta ca atentia si concentrarea sunt necesare, logic, dar nu suficiente.
Felicitari! Poate te gandesti mai bine si ne impartasesti mai pe larg experienta ta pentru a putea profita cei care urmaresc sa obtina nota 7 sau 8 la toate probele.

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ca sa obtii 8 scor general, dupa umila mea parere :) , ar trebui sa iti propui sa obtii 8 sau peste la fiecare modul - asa ca mi s-a parut relativ util sa "impartasesc experienta" pentru doua dintre ele. Daca e irelevant si discutam doar de overall (?!), c'est - scuze de intrerupere, continuati.


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